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In this episode of The Atlas Obscura Podcast, reporter Sam O’Brien takes us to Lily Dale, the world’s largest surviving community of spiritualists, where she learns that there are plenty of ways to connect with the dead—even if you don’t believe in ghosts.

Our podcast is an audio guide to the world’s wondrous, awe-inspiring, strange places. In under 15 minutes, we’ll take you to an incredible site, and along the way you’ll meet some fascinating people and hear their stories. Join us daily, Monday through Thursday, to explore a new wonder with cofounder Dylan Thuras and a neighborhood of Atlas Obscura reporters.

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